May 3, 2025 • Recorded in Chicago, with host Peter Sagal, judge and scorekeeper Bill Kurtis, Not My Job guest Natasha Rothwell, and panelists Hari Kondabolu, Peter Grosz, and Joyelle Nicole Johnson.

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A previous version of this story described Trey Obering as an executive vice president at Booz Allen Hamilton. He is currently a senior executive advisor with the company.

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